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Nathaniel Eichert's avatar

Great post, sits at the intersection of 3-4 of my personal hobby horses. As a tech-savvy early 20s grad student with >1%ile ambitions but <10%ile conscientiousness, I've struggled quite a bit to find ways to force myself to stop wire heading on screens and get work done. The only thing I've found any success with is 100% impossible to bypass self binding. My phone addiction isn't a problem so long as I set the screen time settings to take away my browser and ability to download new apps, then have my girlfriend set the password. Unfortunately, I've found a way to break and bypass every blocker available for my laptop and desktop, so my distraction continues unabated on the bigger screen.

Short of getting rid of the screens at home and opting to do work only in libraries, it seems like an LLM assistant with the ability to carry out Oddyssean controls on my screen time according to its evaluation of pre-set criteria for acceptable levels and definitions of productivity would save me. I hope someone is working on such a defense-first product, or else maybe I'll build it if I...ever get around to it.

Maybe one equilibrium resulting from the world you describe is an elite 1-3% with the genetically endowed self control to resist the super-stimuli, another fairly elite 5-10% who lack the control on their own but possess the ambition/intelligence/wherewithal to outsource their self control to the machines, and everyone else living out Wall-E world.

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Here's a positive angle: the prevalence of cheap LLMs will actually balance the playing field! Here's what I mean: right now, only megacorps can afford all of these thousands of PhDs. The only way to win that game is simply not to play. Nobody is really "smart enough" to avoid being manipulated by Facebook and Nestle's junkfood (actually I think being traditionally smart makes you more vulnerable); educated people just avoid it entirely, but of course that takes some degree of self-control and knowledge (and in some cases, nontrivial amounts of money).

In a few years, though, we might all have ten thousand PhDs in our pocket. Sure, the megacorps will have them too, and theirs will be better, but it'll probably like a 5:1 gradient vs 1,000:1 like it is now. That seems pretty great to me! You could just ask your AI agent "buy me ingredients from Instacart that allow me to cook seven meals this week; prioritize time over health and health over flavor" and completely beat all of the manipulation foisted on you by the designs of grocery stores and the design of the Instacart app. That's just orders of magnitude better than the process that most people follow today, which is going to the grocery store planning to buy tomatoes and ending up with some ultraprocessed Nestle crap or getting sucked into buying Twinkies based on some ad in their food ordering app.

Search is a great example. Until quite recently, Google was really the only game in town; "friendly" alternatives like DuckDuckGo just weren't very good. You _could_ opt out of a lot of the manipulative chicanery that Google foisted on you, but you had to know enough to install various browser addons, network-level blockers etc. But now, you can just pay $10/month for Kagi, which gives you better results and no attempts at behavioral manipulation. For just $120/year! Sure, _some_ people can't afford that, but not many. And for a mere $25/month, you get to pipe its results through the best frontier LLMs to get even more utility! And it's only Year 3 of the LLM Era!

You'll be able to tell an agent "review my Facebook messages and summarize me the ones that I've historically cared about, but ignore all ads, ignore all posts designed to elicit outrage, ignore all posts about politics."

One last point: all we really need to do is get productivity to the point at which food, energy, and shelter are essentially free. Once we do that, we've got the Star Trek economy, where 90% of the population can basically not work and have a perfectly decent life, but there are still things (leadership positions, Veblin goods, status goods, etc.) left for the remaining 10% to strive for, and that's enough to keep productivity marching forward.

Now, of course, there's the "violent young men" problem, which becomes a catastrophe for societies (lots of other great posts here about that). But I think we might be able to solve that problem with videogames. Seriously. Tyler Cowen wants to build cheap shanty housing in New Mexico with broadband for these people. Peter Suderman wrote a really compelling article about it all the way back in 2017 (https://reason.com/2017/06/13/young-men-are-playing-video-ga/). It's a bit of a nonchemical version of Wirehead City. I think there's really something to it!

Now this could all go horribly wrong, of course, in all the (totally plausible and perhaps even likely) described above. But there really is room for optimism!

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